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1/17/2006

 

Govt Restricts IIM's Expansion Plans

The HRD ministry did not allow the IIMs to setup a B-school in Singapore. Why? The government wants them to expand in India first. And look at what this NDTV report uncovers:
But IIM Ahmedabad has been trying to open a centre in Navi Mumbai for the last five years and has yet to get permission from the Maharashtra government.
They were told that the permission would be granted only if it reserved 12 per cent of its seats for Maharashtrians.  And according to sources, IIM-A was denied the 25 acres of land after they refused to reserve seats.

This report also uncovers how state governments like Gujarat do not co-operate with IIMs. I don't know why the government throws the spanner in the works of IIMs' expansion plans. You know, we all feel proud when a stupid Bollywood flick is sent for the Oscars nominations. We beat our chests and holler about how Mumbai is the 'Manchester of India' and Pune is the 'Oxford of India'. We have been such suckers for anything 'foreign' but suddenly when one of our own institutes wants to plant our flag in foreign lands, well, we become super-patriots. When they do try to expand, the Maharashtra government wants 12% reservation for Maharashtrians. On the other hand, state governments boast about how they offer tax holidays and infrastructure support for IT companies. Why? Because they rake in the dollars. We are okay with it, for money is money, foreign or not.
What's hilarious is that former HRD minister, who had tried to stifle IIMs and IITs during his tenure, is backing the current minister's decision:
Strongly defending Arjun Singh's decision of disallowing IIM-B to open a campus in Singapore, Joshi said "Indian tax payer's money should be first used for the country. I had tried to bring down IIM fees but some people protested. I am happy with the government's new decision."
Echoing the Central government view that IIMs should be catering to the requirements of the country before they try to set foot elsewhere, Joshi said: "India needs good managers in all fields. Our electricity, water supply, health, education, everything is mismanaged. Therefore, the IIMs must focus on these areas of social relevance first."

Everything is mismanaged? Why didn't I think of that before? Maybe the honorable former minister's passion, patriotism, and angst clouded his logical thinking ability. They are mismanaged because the government runs them. Now tell me, why should the government interfere with IIMs?
Tax payer's money? Only 2% of the population pays personal income tax. I don't get it. Or in other words, 2% are screwed for the benefit of the rest. I'd like to know how much money I contribute to the IIMs' functioning, as opposed to the money our Parliament spent on discussing Saurav Ganguly's place in the Indian Cricket team. Or the money our ministers spend on government bungalows, cars, security...  Who are you kidding?
In Pakistan, you need to earn in excess of $15,000 to qualify for the top rate of 35%... [Via BBC]

The IIMs have managed, despite hurdles from the government, to establish a platform that creates world class managers and leaders (and some condescending bloggers; that's fine I can live with that). The government should not have any say in what the IIMs want to do; like it can't and shouldn't interfere in private sector hiring. If the government does not relent and do away with these populist ideas, it will have a disastrous effect on the overall growth of the country. I can already foresee an exodus of quality professionals to foreign shores.

Update: Vasu, our own closet-communist, has shot his mouth off, in one of those moments where anger nullifies reason and rhetoric blinds you to facts. Here is my response to Vasu:
"If IIMs have not done much than just branch out to 6 institutes in the last 55 years, what is the gaurentee that they would do so now."

Pal, welcome back to earth. If you read my post, you'll understand why your statement is vain.
Do we have to risk public funds by investing it elsewhere?

Do you know how many PSUs are running in losses and did you know that our money goes there too? Anyway check facts. I don't think IIMs run on public funds. Correct me if I am wrong.
The IIM managmeent simply has no intention of doing this as they are protectors of the holy grail in education called merit and quality even conviniently ignoring the constitutional mandate to the state and state institutions to provide education as a matter of right and not as a matter of award.

Education as a right is meant for elementary education for children upto 14 years of age. Again, check your facts. Of course, correct me if I am wrong.
...ensure 69% reservations are implemented in these institutes including management.

Caste-based reservation in professional education, hmmm. Do you really believe what you wrote Vasu? Or at least pass me the stuff you are on man. It ought to be darn good.
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4 Comments:

Blogger Vasu the terrible said...

hey suman,

Just wanted to let you know the premise upon which I made those arguments. but before I dwell into that, I want to counter the statement you made calling me a "closet communist".

I dont think, we need to look at positions based on which camp they belong to. I am in favour of complete privatisation of professional education which is controled by the AICTE and MCI. That would provide volume. However the excess demand should be used to impact the social setup which is totally screwed up. That is not volte face since the issue at question is what do we do with IIMs. You might be wondering "Why am I obecting to being called a communist ? (more so, when I am called closet)".

You limit my options of what stance I can take on other issues. Somehow being in concurrance of what self proclaimed communist say on one issue, ties me to their position on every other issue. Which I donot agree, because I know I am not that. So kindly give me that leeway and withdraw that comment. No I am not offended. Just that it is inaccurate and misleading. If I am a communist afterall, I will do it with full gusto, and openly. I dont have closet at my place. All my dirty clothes just lie around :-).

coming back to the context of the argument. The whole issue of merit and quality is just an eliminating criteria. The concept of merit itself as it stands today is not based on provent methofology. My argument was if your percentage of marks can be a criteria for being given admission, why not have social background as a criteria.

Thats what I meant by saying education as an award. As a testimony of winning some race. Its become that sadly. Not because of anything else but government's pigheaded policies on creating demand and IIM's policy of trying to be the best as opposed to providing opportunities to a whole lot of people.

Afterall, you need to look at who all are in the board of IIMs. Mostly industrialist who are profit oriented. I am not saying thats wrong. I am also extremely profit oriented. But those profit oriented people should not be allowed to dictate the very character and purpose for which this institute was state funded.

A quick glance at facts.

1) IIM A is situated on 100 Acres of land.

2) Land provided by the state free of cost.

3) Each IIM produces just around 200 or so seats.

IIM's selection critiera are based on a logic. Weather that logic is accurate or not is totally debatable.

Mind you, atleast 150,000 people give IIM exams for around 1500 seats.

That to me is a criminal waste of money. Infact if this attitude makes me a communist. So be it. In that case, just drop the word "closet".

vasu

Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:09:00 PM GMT+05:30  
Blogger Vasu the terrible said...

Sorry... forgot to make a point the last time I posted.

When you quoted me saying

"...ensure 69% reservations are implemented in these institutes including management."

You left out the context upon which I was saying that.

I started out by giving my own formula of what needs to be done with the current IIM impasse based on the principles of social egalitarianism.

I said and I quote "India has two options.....

1) Disband IIT, IIMs ..... and give permissions to for private sector to invest in education.....

2) Take strong control of govering of IITs and IIMs. Establish IITs and IIMs in every state in the country thus increasing the capacity 25 fold. ensure 69% reservations are implemented in these institutes including management.

I think the whole argument of exclusivity doesnt mix with government institutions. Govt. institutions (funded by the people of India) should be open for everyone and not exclusivity. That way merit or quality is not the need of the hour. The need of the hour is more seats.

vasu

Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:34:00 PM GMT+05:30  
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U-turn by India?

After an initial proposal to set up a campus in Singapore was squashed by the Indian government last month, the Indian Institute of Management (IIM) at Bangalore may finally come here. According to The Times of India yesterday, New Delhi has reversed an earlier controversial decision to stop the prestigious business school from branching overseas.
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This comes one day after Indian President Dr A P J Abdul Kalam visited Singapore as part of a three-nation tour.
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In an apparent support of IIM to go global, the president said no single country could achieve knowledge in isolation.
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Commenting on the earlier IIM rejection, he told Indian reporters in Singapore that "knowledge does not come solo. There are some countries which are strong in software and others in hardware. When they come together, it creates a new synergy. Societies have to come together for sharing knowledge."
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Last month, the Singapore campus idea was dismissed after India's Human Resource Ministry said prestigious schools should first concentrate on meeting domestic demand.
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However, even with the reversal in stand, it may take months before a formal go-ahead is given.
.
Noting that there are certain "legal barriers" involved, IIM-Bangalore Director Prakash Apte said "we have to get the Board's approval. We have to go carefully. We hope in three to four months it should be done".
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But even as this Indian business school prepares to come to Singapore, a local university is making headways in Bangalore.
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The National University of Singapore (NUS) yesterday announced the launch of an overseas college in Bangalore � the fifth under its NUS Overseas Colleges (NOC) programme but the first for graduate students.
.
This would allow Singapore students to head for Bangalore to immerse themselves in the workings of India's IT hotspot.
.
The tie-up with the Indian Institute of Science (IISc) was formalised during a visit to NUS by President Abdul Kamal.
.
Said NUS President, Professor Shih Choon Fong: "Bangalore is the Silicon Valley of India, so by putting our students there, we are exposing them to the new developments in IT.
.
"We hope to nurture innovative technology leaders and entrepreneurs with strong cross-cultural awareness and understanding," he added.
.
Under the programme, students will spend one year as interns at Indian technology-based start-ups, and attend entrepreneurship and discipline-based courses at partner universities concurrently.
.
Since 2001, NUS has set up colleges in Silicon Valley and Philadelphia in the US, Shanghai in China, and Stockholm in Sweden.
.
Applications for the Bangalore college will open in academic year 2006/2007, and NUS expects to send 10 students for its first batch of students. � With additional reporting by Teo Xuanwei

After an initial proposal to set up a campus in Singapore was squashed by the Indian government last month, the Indian Institute of Management (IIM) at Bangalore may finally come here. According to The Times of India yesterday, New Delhi has reversed an earlier controversial decision to stop the prestigious business school from branching overseas.
.
This comes one day after Indian President Dr A P J Abdul Kalam visited Singapore as part of a three-nation tour.
.
In an apparent support of IIM to go global, the president said no single country could achieve knowledge in isolation.
.
Commenting on the earlier IIM rejection, he told Indian reporters in Singapore that "knowledge does not come solo. There are some countries which are strong in software and others in hardware. When they come together, it creates a new synergy. Societies have to come together for sharing knowledge."
.
Last month, the Singapore campus idea was dismissed after India's Human Resource Ministry said prestigious schools should first concentrate on meeting domestic demand.
.
However, even with the reversal in stand, it may take months before a formal go-ahead is given.
.
Noting that there are certain "legal barriers" involved, IIM-Bangalore Director Prakash Apte said "we have to get the Board's approval. We have to go carefully. We hope in three to four months it should be done".
.
But even as this Indian business school prepares to come to Singapore, a local university is making headways in Bangalore.
.
The National University of Singapore (NUS) yesterday announced the launch of an overseas college in Bangalore � the fifth under its NUS Overseas Colleges (NOC) programme but the first for graduate students.
.
This would allow Singapore students to head for Bangalore to immerse themselves in the workings of India's IT hotspot.
.
The tie-up with the Indian Institute of Science (IISc) was formalised during a visit to NUS by President Abdul Kamal.
.
Said NUS President, Professor Shih Choon Fong: "Bangalore is the Silicon Valley of India, so by putting our students there, we are exposing them to the new developments in IT.
.
"We hope to nurture innovative technology leaders and entrepreneurs with strong cross-cultural awareness and understanding," he added.
.
Under the programme, students will spend one year as interns at Indian technology-based start-ups, and attend entrepreneurship and discipline-based courses at partner universities concurrently.
.
Since 2001, NUS has set up colleges in Silicon Valley and Philadelphia in the US, Shanghai in China, and Stockholm in Sweden.
.
Applications for the Bangalore college will open in academic year 2006/2007, and NUS expects to send 10 students for its first batch of students. �

Friday, February 3, 2006 2:02:00 PM GMT+05:30  
Blogger Tobycat said...

Maybe Manmohan Singh and Arjun Singh can coordinate with US and UK universities to set up their campuses in India for the forsaken upper castes! Is any entrepreneur listening? Time to cash on. The Indian middle class will make it a profitable venture. What about bankers? Educational loans can generate big business.

Friday, April 14, 2006 1:07:00 AM GMT+05:30  

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